On March 1st, 2022, Pro-Ukraine activists rallied outside of the UN in NY to call for NATO to create a No-Fly Zone over Ukraine. The rally was called “The No-Fly Zone over Ukraine” rally. As CBS News reports “Dozens of people crowded the area…..”
The nature of such a sparsely populated rally is generally dubious from the start, though not necessarily. However, when a corporate media outlet is painting a rosy picture on dozens of people attending your rally to call on NATO to risk nuclear war to save Ukraine from Russian jets, one would be remiss not to reserve a measure of skepticism regarding the nature of the activists themselves. Not that I’m judging them if they are (insert mysterious government alphabet here). States gonna do what states gonna do, as the saying goes.
I just want to set the real context of the nature of the plea that was made by 20 some-ish people in New York that might bring about armed conflict between countries with nuclear weapons. I just want to bring that context to bear before we celebrate twenty some-ish people showing up on a reasonably decent day in New York City outside the UN headquarters building to attempt to influence NATO to send jets to confront Russian jets so we can protect Ukraine.
Whatever your feeling about Ukraine, be it for Russia, for Ukraine, or whoever, I can assure you that no-fly zones over Ukraine would most likely be a horrible outcome for all parties involved.
A story like this is a little feeder, a tester, to see what kind of response they get from the idea of a no-fly zone from the peoples, wrapped behind the safety of it not being ‘experts’ or journalists starting off with this idea of a no-fly zone, it is actually a grassroots movement, a peoples’ movement in support of sovereign nationhood and whatnots.
There are many ways to support Ukraine, but risking armed conflict with a nuclear power is not one of them. Perhaps Poland can assist by declaring war on Belarus, and see if Russia is then willing to risk conflict with a nuclear power by going after a member of NATO without nuclear weapons.
That is a whole lot of risks in and of itself, but it would STILL be less riskier than declaring a No-Fly Zone over Ukraine. If you support Ukraine, their next move, sadly, is to make it as brutal as they can while they stave off the inevitable, though the new exiles should already be forming up, being trained, many to go back and constitute the initial ongoing resistance to Russian presence.
It’s a grim future, though, and offers, perhaps, a decade or more of grinding down lives in a substandard, unstable world where no Ukrainian would long want to stay anyway. I suspect Russia will attempt to move Russians in where Ukrainians move out. We might then be witnessing the elimination of a whole people should their diaspora not hold together under common values and customs that can be lived out wherever they are.
The best we can hope for is Russia realizes, after eventually taking Kiev (and they soon most likely will), that the going is too costly, so they’ll accept a reduced Ukraine that still holds its autonomy even as it loses more territory. Outside of that, there is little chance any nuclear power will directly confront Russian troops. Poland is the strongest contender to being able to intervene militarily, but only against Belarus. Russia would then have to decide whether to escalate by attacking a NATO nation or not. Even if Poland is the best option, it’s not a very good one. All we can do is supply, arm, take care of the family members of the fighters, if we want to help Ukraine.
If we want to help Russia, well, we would simply stay out Russia’s well, but, geopolitically, America can ill afford to do so. Now that China is coming forward to offer to mitigate talks between Russia and Ukraine, America might do well to increase her supplying of Ukrainians to assure, if there is a deal, Ukraine remains on the table for the West.
Ukraine is the gateway between the Empires of the East and the Empires of the West. No hegemonic power can long hold sway in this part of the world if Ukraine is in the hands of their enemies. It is the launching pad in either direction due to where it lies, in the East European Plain.
Unfortunately, this makes the Ukrainians political footballs for eastern and western powers, from America to Russia, China to Germany, Ukraine is the spoils of other nations more than she is her own.
Let’s keep a watch on this whole no-fly zone rally and hope, for everyone’s sake, it doesn’t grow legs.
Rally outside United Nations calls on NATO to impose no-fly zone over Ukraine
From www.cbsnews.com
2022-03-01 17:44:00
Excerpt:
NEW YORK — As the conflict in Ukraine reaches its sixth day, many across the world are condemning Russian President Vladimir Putin, including a group of protesters who took to the streets Tuesday on Manhattan’s East Side.
The rally, called “The No-Fly Zone Over Ukraine,” kicked off at around 10 a.m. across the street from the United Nations. Dozens of people crowded the area, calling on NATO to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine so Russia cannot perform airstrikes.
The group joined a growing number of rallies across the world condemning Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine. Cars and trucks could be heard honking for blocks, showing support for the cause.
“It’s extremely difficult to support Ukraine, because of Russia’s threats. So I guess just trying to show as an international community that we support them and we’re hoping for their safety,” one demonstrator told CBS2’s Elijah Westbrook.
Many of the protesters Westbrook spoke with said they want the…
